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February 2020
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Mohammed Kazmi
It’s imperative to remain in liquid assets and this makes CDS indices attractive
Portfolio manager and macro strategist
Union Bancaire Privée
February 2020
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Issue 220
Born:
Douglas, Isle of Man
Lives:
Swiss Cottage, north-west London
Education:
University College London, Economics
Last holiday:
Japan
Favourite movie:
Good Will Hunting, because everyone loves an underdog
Fun fact:
Asked to train with and represent the Pakistan national rugby team (unfortunately he never made it to a game)
Bucket list:
Watch Liverpool win the English Premier League after 30 years of hurt. Do the Inca trail
Career:
Kazmi joined UBP’s fixed income team in November 2015. He works on the UBAM Absolute Return Low Vol Fixed Income fund. Previously, he spent close to two years working as a macro currency strategist at Principal Global Investors in London. He started his career at RBS in 2011
UBP:
a wealth manager with CHF140bn ($145 billion) in assets under management. It was founded in 1969 by Edgar de Picciotto and is headquartered in Geneva
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Mohammed Kazmi of Union Bancaire Privée takes our credit quiz
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Q.
What are today’s best investments in credit?
A.
Investors should remain selective in their investment decisions and not chase returns at any cost, despite the lower yielding backdrop. As such, we have a bias towards high-quality credit.

As we move later cycle, spikes of volatility are bound to appear from time to time. As such, we see it as imperative to remain in positions that are liquid and that you can trade in and out of against all risk backdrops, which is why we see the use of CDS indices as particularly attractive at this time. CDS indices, particularly in the high yield sector, have the benefit of being not only diversified products with low trading costs, but they see volumes increase in times of stress, making them useful to trade in case one’s macro scenario changes.

We also favour subordinated debt in the financials space, given the strength of bank balance sheets
Q.
What was your first job in credit?
A.
I started at RBS where I was a cross asset class strategist, focused on emerging market debt and FX, looking at the sector from a macro top-down perspective. Since then, I have worked at Principal Global Investors, where I expanded my coverage to developed markets. I currently work for UBP, where I serve as portfolio manager and macro strategist within fixed income.
Q.
Given your focus on CDS indices, how are you embracing ESG criteria?
A.
We are committed to integrating ESG into our investment approach, across all funds and mandates, as well as within our initial investment processes, in a bid to better manage risks and provide sustainable, long-run returns for clients. The process includes an exclusion list of names we would not invest in. For our high yield fund we invest exclusively through CDS indices whose constituents we do not select, as the index is provided. But unlike investments in equities and bonds, CDS indices do not contribute to the financing of a company.
Q.
Do you see any bumps in the road?
A.
One issue is liquidity in risk-off moments that can fuel volatility spikes. We therefore recommend not only the use of CDS indices, but also building more balanced portfolios that hold both credit and interest rate duration. Holding interest rate risk makes sense at a time when central banks are not hiking and this will support the portfolio’s performance in risk-off episodes. The latest example of this is the impact of coronavirus on credit. We have seen how holding interest duration has been able to support a portfolio, as the concerns have attracted safe-haven flows into developed market government bonds.

We also see risks building once US-China trade negotiations return, when the more difficult phase two negotiations kick off. Volatility could also pick up as we get closer to the US elections. That said, both of these are not imminent, but will require monitoring.
Q.
How will the high yield market play out in a recession?
A.
If we move into a recession, the riskier parts of the market will underperform, and this is unlikely to be any different in this cycle, where high yield would be impacted. However, this is not our base case. We are not seeing any signs in the data that would suggest a recession is imminent. Instead, we are actually seeing data improve off the lows, as the uncertainties of trade and Brexit that were clouding the outlook have lifted.
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Where do you see investors reallocating this year?
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The high yield market and credit markets more generally have seen plenty of inflows over the past year, with 2020 also starting strongly. As yields within the investment grade market fall, this is likely forcing investors up the risk spectrum and into high yield for returns. With the growth backdrop improving and central banks more likely to ease policy further rather than hiking rates, investors have taken this environment as an opportunity to put cash to work.
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